discussion   |   photos   |   email   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Barns and Out Buildings Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 01-23-2018, 16:05 Post: 106364
shortmagnum



Join Date:
Location: Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

Return to Full
 Treated wood question

Last summer I had a buddy with a cat prepare a site for my pole shed/shop. He pushed all the topsoil into a pile and leveled the site with clean sand and then added about 4 inches of good gravel on top. So I'm sitting with an 80'x 60' parking lot. I would like to start the actual construction this year and my questions are:

What's the consensus on the newer non-arsenic treated timbers underground? Will they last more than 20 years? If there is a problem would some sort of water repellent be a good idea for under the ground line?

I hope to live more than 20 years Smile and if the timber life is going to be limited I would most likely put up a stick built building with foundation or floating slab.

Thanks in advance,
Dave






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-24-2018, 06:48 Post: 106381
shortmagnum



Join Date:
Location: Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

Return to Full
 Treated wood question

Randy, One of the good things (maybe the only one) about living up here where it gets to -40 degrees is a definite lack of termites. I don't think I've ever seen termite damage. We do have ants that can destroy wood but that's usually above ground level.

Placing the poles on concrete piers would work. Then I'd have to build a highly braced framework similar to a timber frame because the ground would no longer hold the upright poles rigid. I got my sawmill running last fall so all the non-treated inside framework could be just made from pine (free!!). I would still buy the trusses though. Only the wood that touches the concrete would have to be treated. This could be a good way for me to "practice" on a simplified timber frame because I plan on building a timber frame house on this property in a few years. I've built two houses before this but they are traditional stick built houses.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-24-2018, 11:42 Post: 106382
shortmagnum



Join Date:
Location: Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

Return to Full
 Treated wood question

Murf, are you saying that you would expect the newer treated wood to last as long? If so that would make things alot simpler and less expensive.
Dave

FYI: Even though the prepared area is much larger I only plan on a 30 x 60 building. I might add a lean-to in the future though.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-25-2018, 17:09 Post: 106463
shortmagnum



Join Date:
Location: Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

Return to Full
 Treated wood question

"If you're interested I could point you to people in your area who will either sell you enough rough cut lumber, or bring in a portable sawmill for you to have what you need cut from your own trees. "

Murf, This is almost an insult to someone who has a sawmill and can saw his own lumber. Laughing out loud!
I do appreciate the offer though. I also know others who have cut logs for me in the past.

I'm thinking I will pour some concrete pads down under the frost line with treated up from there and backfill with pea gravel or sand.
Dave






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-25-2018, 22:04 Post: 106464
shortmagnum



Join Date:
Location: Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

Return to Full
 Treated wood question

"I am assuming that you are not going with beams, floor joists and plywood subflooring. If you are, then I have a great design that uses no PT lumber. Let me know and I will share it."

For a while I'll just use the gravel surface for a floor. I don't need the shop for a few years so will just use the building for storage till then. It would make sense to pour the concrete floor right away before it fills up with "stuff" that you have to remove so that you can pour later.
Dave






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Barns and Out Buildings Forum

Thread 106364 Filter by Poster:
Ardician 1 | Billy Passmore 1 | brokenarrow 2 | Chief 1 | earthwrks 1 | grinder 1 | Murf 2 | shortmagnum 5 |

 (advanced search)



Unanswered Questions

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Horse Injured Polyrope Electri
Do electric fences keep out de
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
gas powered post driver
My new born foal is really sic
Trailer Axle
dump trailer blueprints


Active Subjects

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Went to see Dennis Reis this w
Signs to look for prior to lab
leg injury
Broodmare has welts all over h
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
poles in the ground vs. concre
ever thought about moving?


Hot Topics

new app owner
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
Heating a Garage
Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Do electric fences keep out de
gas powered post driver
Trailer Axle


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ poles in the ground vs. concrete footings with anc
+ The Icynene Insulation SystemŽ
+ New barn
+ Heating a Garage
+ Increasing door height to fit tractor
+ New addition for my new Tractor
+ Pole Barns and Post Holes
+ Garage Heater
+ Advice on building a shop
+ Excavating for Pole Barn

Most Discussion

+ New barn
+ New addition for my new Tracto
+ The Icynene Insulation SystemŽ
+ vinyl siding
+ Heating a Garage
+ Land Preparation
+ Garage Heater
+ Increasing door height to fit
+ Advice on building a shop
+ poles in the ground vs. concre

Newest Topics

+ Gas Generator Weather Protection
+ revisisting icynene insulation again
+ Building new pole barn
+ Electric/Insulation Job estimate
+ Pole Barn or stick built
+ heating the shop-radiant floor vs. infrared above
+ Pole Barn Concrete Floor
+ Gravel Compaction under Conc. Slab Floor
+ Advice on building a shop
+ finishing touches on barn
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines